Getting the Reuben Right

There are a lot of ways to fuck up a Reuben sandwich. You’d think it would be an easy win, with so many good things going for it–corned beef, rye bread, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, even the Thousand Island dressing. But a good sandwich needs balance, and a good Reuben needs it more than most. My ideal Reuben might not match up with your vision of the sandwich, but I have a few guidelines, some key words that I look out for on a menu before ordering a Reuben. Generally speaking, I will avoid these.

Reuben buzzword buzzkill number one: Marbled Rye

Marble Rye Bread, Sandwich

It seems like a lot of restaurants like to use marbled rye for their Reubens, and it’s easy to see why–it’s a visually striking bread. And while I do my best to make the sandwiches I feature on this website look good, you can’t taste pretty. Marbled rye is boring, a fairly bland rye bread with a swirl of darker color added, and is generally a lighter textured, thicker-sliced bread than a Bohemian or a seeded Rye. For me, the flavor of caraway is a necessity in a Reuben so I prefer a seeded “Jewish” rye bread for a Reuben.

Reuben buzzword buzzkill number two: Stacked High

There are a couple of competing (and in some cases bickering) theories regarding the origin of the Reuben. One of them describes a New York deli style sandwich, piled high like a New York deli does. The other describes a more modest sandwich, flat and level like its homeland of Nebraska. I may have been born without the gene that says to stop eating corned beef, but I still prefer the latter to this:

Corned Beef Factory Reuben

Corned Beef Factory Reuben

I will be the first to admit, though, that this sandwich was tasty as hell.

Reuben buzzword buzzkill number three: Sliced Thick

Katz's Deli - Lunch

Now in the example above, found on Flickr from Katz’s Deli in NYC, it may not be a problem since that appears to be corned beef brisket that has been slow cooked to the proper tenderness and simply cannot be sliced any thinner. However, in the US most commercially made corned beef sold to delis is more likely to be a leaner cut that needs to be sliced very thinly in order to work well, stacked in a sandwich. If you’re buying corned beef at the deli to make yourself a Reuben at home, ask them to slice it as thinly as they can without shredding it.

Reuben buzzword buzzkill number four: Lightly Toasted

With the Katz’s deli example above, and with this example I ate at a favorite bar of mine recently, the sandwich is served on lightly toasted (or not toasted at all) rye.

The problem here is that a Reuben is, or should be, a melt. A melt is essentially a grilled cheese sandwich with other stuff in the middle. That means the sandwich should be assembled and then pan-fried with butter long enough to toast the bread and heat the fillings. That cheese needs to be melting and oozing out the sides of the sandwich along with a streamer of Thousand Island dressing.

So how would I, a big dumb sandwich guy, make a Reuben?

It’s not rocket surgery. You start with bread–seeded rye bread that is, this particular slice is S. Rosen’s seeded rye

Seeded rye bread

Seeded rye bread

Now this is a melt, so we’re going to put cheese on both the top and the bottom. This is not universal to Reuben construction and may in fact be somewhat controversial given my stance on balance. But if the cheese is not sliced super thick, having cheese adjacent to both slices of bread helps hold the sandwich together. Plus, who doesn’t like melted cheese?

Swiss cheese

Swiss cheese

Now is the time I will add the Thousand Island dressing

Thousand Island dressing

Thousand Island dressing

Unless of course I am making this sandwich with Russian dressing instead. For me, personally, I like the classic Thousand Island flavor but this particular Russian dressing–Wishbone brand I think–tastes kind of like Arby sauce and I get a kind of low brow kick out of it.

Russian dressing

Russian dressing

Now we’ll add the meat, folding the thin-sliced, nearly shredded corned beef into multiple layers. Laying the meat flat would make for a more consistently even melt but the folds help the meat bite through more cleanly.

Corned beef

Corned beef

Then I add a solid layer of sauerkraut. I’m not piling it on but I’m not shying away from it either. I should not be able to see much pink by the time I’m done adding it.

Sauerkraut

Sauerkraut

Finally, another slice of Swiss cheese

Swiss cheese

Swiss cheese

And the top slice of seeded rye bread, buttered on the outside so this sandwich can be inverted onto a griddle.

Buttered rye bread

Buttered rye bread

The layers in action:

Reuben before grilling

Reuben before grilling

I have a domed cover I use when griddling sandwiches or burgers to help the cheese melt. It just barely fits over one of these due to the larger size of the rye bread. It’s a champion at melting cheese though.

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

Here’s the cross section:

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

The Reuben is a classic for a reason. When you get everything right, all the different big flavors going into this sandwich come together to make something greater than the sum of their parts. The salty-sour pairing of corned beef and sauerkraut is a natural combination, and a crisp-but-soft textural contrast between the griddled rye bread and what’s inside it, with the Swiss cheese not just a nutty background note, but the glue that binds the whole together.

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

Reuben with Thousand Island dressing

There’s an almost elemental interplay between the caraway seeds of the rye bread and the sweet/sour creamy Thousand Island dressing–the taste of one always makes me think of the other. I can’t think why this combination would induce such a strong reaction in me other than a Pavlovian response to a good sandwich.

As for the Russian dressing version–I understand there are renditions of Russian dressing that are much closer in character to Thousand Island but this one is almost barbecue sauce like, a thick mix of tomato and vinegar that makes me want to pile the meat a little higher, maybe even use pastrami instead of corned beef.

Reuben with Russian dressing

Reuben with Russian dressing. Note: this is not pastrami

In any case, what I am looking for in a Reuben is that grilled-cheese-like quality of a melt, where the ingredients of the sandwich are relatively evenly distributed and griddled together as a whole, resulting in a harmonious combination bound by melted cheese and encased in crisp buttered bread. I suppose that puts me more on the Omaha side of things than the NYC side as far as the origin of the sandwich goes.

Still, there’s a market for everything I guess, and there are a lot of menus out there featuring Reubens that wouldn’t make my cut. So I suppose that my word isn’t the last one when it comes to this sandwich. Who out there has some different thoughts on the Reuben? Please let me know how you like this sandwich, and why!

Jim Behymer

I like sandwiches. I like a lot of other things too but sandwiches are pretty great

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6 Responses

  1. Deborah Kopacz says:

    Your take on this wonderful sandwich is pretty much the same as mine. However, I’m not a fan of the Thousand Island or Russian dressing. Instead, I add mustard. Yum!

  2. V says:

    The best reubens feature kraut and corned beef that have seen time on the flat top to crisp up a bit. Also, the inside of the bread should be lightly toasted before being flipped to receive the goods. Corned beef goes first, then cheese, then crisped kraut, then a slathering of thousand island. Top rye goes on, a light press is applied, then a flip. I also believe in less meat and kraut for a more compact sandwich with balance and prolonged crispness.

  3. Mick Abraham says:

    Hi, could you address the issue about using dark rye bread instead of light rye? Normally I’m there for whole grains but I think I’ve never tasted dark rye. Since it has a heavy-duty look…does it overwhelm the other flavors in a Reuben sandwich? It it more dry or difficult to chew? Thanks in advance.

  4. Craig says:

    You’re clearly a detail guy when it comes to sandwiches. I approve, but I’d suggest since you’ve gone this far on the road to the perfect rueben, you should make your own dressing. Thousand Island or Russian is fine, but if you make it yourself (and it’s super easy) , the Russian would look more like Thousand Island than that dayglow monstrosity in the pic above. They are essentially the same thing but Russian has the added kick of horseradish. That may sound too strong but it stands out better in a sandwich full of such bold flavors.

    • Jim Behymer says:

      You’re definitely right. I generally prefer Russian on a Reuben and mostly make it myself these days, but when I wrote this article I was a little lazy about it

  5. Kathy says:

    Amen to your version of the Reuben. I just had the New York version today and was so disappointed. I didn’t read the description on the menu so it was my fault. From the marbled bread to the grossly thick layers of corned beef, topped with barely there sauerkraut and not sure what dressing, I really disliked this version. Maybe if I hadn’t been geared up for my normal version, it may have passed ok for a different sandwich. I do like mine with one layer of cheese, but, not sure I ever tried it with two. I do prefer thousand island dressing, but only a modest amount of it.

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